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Topic: The reverse troll  (Read 519 times)
« on: March 10, 2010, 13:45:42 »
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I had a new theory. A majority of AO's forum users are not human beings. Instead they're an AI with a rather simple programming.
Having stated this theory on IRC earlier, it was time to put it to the test.

My theory: Zonax is a bot with the following algorithm:
- When told not to reply, reply.
- When confronted with a valid argument, call the poster a troll.

The second rule was a bit harder to prove as it takes more time setting up, so I focussed on proving its first rule instead.
Having just missed out on this session of Zonax bashing, I decided to create a new thread based on that template.

The experiment:
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http://dump.vhabion.net/trolled/Returning%20player%20looking%20for%20invite%20to%20Minirumble%20and%20Dustfront%20-%20Anarchy%20Online%20Bulletin%20Board.htm
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http://dump.vhabion.net/trolled/Returning%20player%20looking%20for%20invite%20to%20Minirumble%20and%20Dustfront%20-%20Page%202%20-%20Anarchy%20Online%20Bulletin%20Board.htm

I'd say the experiment was a great success.
I managed to force Zonax to create new posts indefinitely until the thread was closed by a moderator.
In all my posts I followed the same pattern of calling him a troll and instructing him to stop posting.

As for Zonax's second AI rule, I believe this post confirms it:

Quote from: Zonax
Quote from: Vhab
I didn't invite you. I specifically told you several times now to stay away.
Drop your stupid grudge against me. Stop stalking my threads.
You lost a flamewar, deal with it. Move on!
I haven't lost any thing, thank you..

Your Topic is with our org/raid name on it i think i have the right to post
like every one else here..just like you have the "right" to rant/troll
all my posts..


Your intention here is obviously personal attack and attack towards a org / raid name. Witch i just posted
is volition to forum/social rules.

Further reading material
Zonax's first public appearance as an idiot: http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php?t=545136
« Last Edit: March 10, 2010, 16:08:31 by Vhab [rk1] »
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You just need to rewrite that record.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 14:22:37 »
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Someone doesn't know when to stop Tongue

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Quote from: Vhab

I'm sorry that creating a thread implies you have to post in it.
I specifically recall stating a request for the thread to be closed before the trolls (you) enter the thread.
This sounds like the exact opposite of inviting you to the thread.
Please stop stalking me. It's harassment and it's against the rules.
This is the last time I will say this: stop sending me messages.

So let me get this striate before i stop sending you (reply) back.

- Posting on any topics you make is a personal harassment to you.
- Maybe you haven't notice, but this is a public forum, its not "your forum".
- I will stop sending you private reply s when you stop sending me msg in
the beginning of.

I am dissepointed in your, i tough you was more mature than this Vhab,
since you infact have contrubuted to AO community in the past and
working with bot/mmsql for AO and chat clients / programming.  

I did in-fact thought we had some quality talk in previous treads without any trolling at some point, before you rush in to the insulting business (i admit i did some insults back to).

These quality talks you speak of was generally you stating false information on a subject you have no personal experience in (despite convincing yourself otherwise).
Then generally followed by you trying to save face by trying to imply my statements are incorrect.
Ironically all of these discussion were in my exact area of expertise.
Your biggest mistake was continuing these talks even after you should have noticed I happen to be far more knowledgeable in those specific areas.

I'm certain you have enough knowledge to seem very knowledgeable towards a layman. But you can't fool someone who actually has experience in various areas of game development.

It seems you still don't grasp AO forum politics and the importance of public opinion.
You can't tell me you haven't noticed the large amount of people who mock you whenever you post on the forums.
Or the lack of mockery I receive whenever I post.
As a bot owner you fail at the most important aspect of owning a bot: drama control and PR.

ps. You got trolled. See you on DoA.

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Quote from: Vhab
As a bot owner you fail at the most important aspect of owning a bot: drama control and PR.

ps. You got trolled. See you on DoA.

Still sending private tells now are we? And still failing with reasoning.
- i am still waiting for you to show me were i harrsa you in any way,
its it wasn't that important anyways.

I duno about the RP, i get allot of tells from ppl who wants to join the bot, trust
me i get allot of positive tells. When it comes to the forum community
the comments usly comes from the same people (usaly clanners ) 2-3 ppl doesn't
really count as a whole community Wink But it is ok for you to try your false vision.

Your way of working with facts have proven to failed more than ones, i remember
the talk about the "Ogre" i posted you facts about its lacking support for DirectX
yet you denied it and pretend to the community i was wrong, even the facts say other-words,
theres nobody else posting about it other than you and me.

You pretend to have some community dominance just because 3-4 of your buddys
bump your trolling, i think you have got some things over your head. I can list many names
that dont want to speak on the forums that have things to say about your trolling
on the forums and your past.

Just remember the blades cut both ways, i and trust me, i do my part just fine.

DoA? what is that? Death over Anarchy trolling community?

I am kinda bussy with t-sql and asp.net now days, dont got time to fool around sorry.

Quote from: Vhab
Quote from: Zonax
Your way of working with facts have proven to failed more than ones, i remember
the talk about the "Ogre" i posted you facts about its lacking support for DirectX
yet you denied it and pretend to the community i was wrong, even the facts say other-words,
theres nobody else posting about it other than you and me.
The thread was closed before I could reply.
Luckily, here's your answer. You're completely wrong.
Ogre support DirectX9 and OpenGL as it's primary renderers.
There's experimental support for DX10/11 and there's quite some progress on OpenGL ES support.
Infact, many commercially released games using Ogre only use it's DX9 render system.

And you said OpenGL ES is the same as OpenGL, by quoting a misleading part from wikipedia.
It's not. ES doesn't have extensions (which actually has the majority of the OpenGL functionality you need, and it's a frigging mess) and therefor only has a small subset of OpenGL.
It's actually much nicer because of this. Less features, is cleaner, is easier and more solid to implement.

Quote from: Zonax
You pretend to have some community dominance just because 3-4 of your buddys
bump your trolling, i think you have got some things over your head. I can list many names
that dont want to speak on the forums that have things to say about your trolling
on the forums and your past.
I don't need buddies to help me out on the forums.
All people involved do this at their own accord.

Quote from: Zonax
DoA? what is that? Death over Anarchy trolling community?
It's a forum.

Quote from: Zonax
I am kinda bussy with t-sql and asp.net now days, dont got time to fool around sorry.
How manly.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2010, 16:08:03 by Vhab [rk1] »
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Memory is merely a record.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 21:42:17 »
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But he's just trying to be like Tobo, with his bot, and his server!
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